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16 January 2012 @ 04:08 pm
Musical Manipulation and TV Part I: The Music Made Me Love You  
After sitting on my frustration long enough, I finally decided to put some sense into the madness, and came up with a bit of meta on the concept of music as an emotional manipulator in the medium of television.


If there's one thing I don't like in life, it's being told what to do. Call me stubborn, but it is what it is. I started to notice myself being musically manipulated for the first time many years ago. I was in a movie theater watching 'Titanic' when the ever-eery first notes of "My Heart Will Go on" danced across the pan flute and into my senses. From that moment on, I was a goner. I still don't think I've ever cried as much during any one entertainment experience. It was almost painful how the music was so obviously chosen to heighten my feelings of sadness and loss. I had been beautifully, artfully, and totally musically manipulated, and I fell for it hook, line, and singer.

To be sure, being musically manipulated may suggest something that is unpleasant or unwelcome in nature, but on the contrary, this may be the one case in which being told what to do or how to feel, is actually something we can welcome with open ears. I mean, can you really picture watching television with no score underwriting the impressions and moments that you've come to love? I know I can't, nor do I want to. So to clarify, musical manipulation is not necessarily a bad thing at all. I like to pose the idea that TV musical coordinators know exactly what they are doing in selecting scores for their shows, and may be just as important as the writers who pen the dialogue for our favorite shows each week. Yes, I said just as important.

This first installment of my study on musical manipulation will focus on an introductory session into identifying the musical cues that you may have been unintentionally following during the viewing of your most beloved television programs for years. After reading this, my hope is that perhaps you can more knowingly recognize these musical cues and enjoy identifying them as I do.

Did you know that music at it's very base level is already telling us something just through it's definitive nature? To even get to our ears, the performer is following a set of markings known as dynamics. Dynamics are simply musical cues that tell the performer how the notes are to be performed. For example, here are a few such dynamics that might grace a standard musical score. In many instances with music used for TV, these terms are not just referring to the activity of the music, but the action of the characters in a particular scene, if musical manipulation is in use:

decrescendo or diminuendo: becoming softer

crescendo: becoming stronger

Staccato: short and detached

legato: smooth and jointed

allegro: cheerful or brisk

grave: slow and solemn
Looking at these terms, is it any wonder that music is often used to set the tone of a scene or to get the audience to lean a certain way? Look at this list! The terms themselves may as well be directives to the actors in their scripts. You can almost imagine a scene where the lead heroine of a given TV series is coming to her breaking point, but as the music begins to crescendo (becoming stronger), she is also becoming stronger, and having a moment as the music leads her to find a new resolve.

Television producers long ago discovered that the addition of music into pivotal scenes can not only enhance a moment, but actually move the audience to feel in a certain direction. Two characters you may never have considered as a viable romantic pair suddenly become a lot more likely candidates, as the swell of violins surrounds deep eye contact, and BOOM! A new couple is born. I'll admit that this is the part of musical manipulation that I bristle at. When watching a TV show, if I hear what I have come to know as "ship-making music" (pious instrumental movement or obvious romantic tonality) during a scene between two people that I'd rather not ever see as a couple? I'm worried and alarmed and, often, annoyed. The music serves as a red flag, of sorts, for me, to tell me "Hey! Look out! Something is about to happen with these two!" Sure enough, I find the music to be incredibly reliable in cases like these. If I hear the opening stirrings of a sympathetic or moving piece of music, I can tell we're in for a "moment." Depending on what's playing upon my screen, I am either excited or filled with dread, however, when I hear these musical cues. I've even been known to shout at my TV screen "No! Not the mood music! Not now! Not these two!" at various moments in my TV-viewing history.


What would an informed observation on this topic be without a few tangible examples to illustrate my point? Here are three that I think capture the idea of "musical manipulation" fairly well:


• This scene from 'Grey's Anatomy' is fairly iconic by now. To set the scene, medical intern Izzie (Katherine Heigl) got involved in a forbidden love affair with heart patient Denny (Jeffrey Dean Morgan). He has had disappointment after disappointment in his search for a desperately needed heart to fulfill his necessary transplant. But now, he has gotten the heart, and the couple are off on the road to happily ever after, complete with a dream prom setting that puts Izzie in a fairytale evening gown. Except for the small detail that Denny has died of a blood clot while Izzie was on her way to meet him, which sets in motion this scene. A piece of perfectly selected music ("Chasing Cars" by Snow Patrol) takes us from heartbroken to downright depressed, as we watch Izzie cling to Denny's dead body.




• Oddly enough, this scene from this past week's episode of 'The Vampire Diaries' is what made me finally want to put my thoughts down on the subject of musical manipulation. This piece is without lyrics of any kind, and yet the swelling of the music to me was one of the most interesting cases of musical manipulation that I've seen in a while. For one thing, this duo of Klaus (Joseph Morgan) and Caroline (Candice Accola) had, up to the present moment, been purely adversarial. Caroline lies in her bed suffering from a fatal wound that only Klaus has the power to heal, and we can get immediate cues from the music, that this scene is meant to mark a change. Not only a change in the relationship between these two vampires, but also, a change in the characters themselves. While Klaus delivers his dialogue about life's beauty, we see Caroline finally accepting her fate as a newly made vampire, even as we hear the music come to a place of opening up and also finding it's tonal resolution. The same goes for Klaus, as we hear more of his empathetic nature and thought processes than we have in episodes past with this bad boy villainous vampire. The music meanders through places of no resolve, until it, like the characters sharing the scene, finally finds it's healing.




• Something big is coming! Warning: kissing ahead! Just listen to the music! This scene from 'Gossip Girl' is a classic example of using music to punctuate a scene and even pace out the events that are about to occur. We hear a smooth musical exchange throughout the opening lines, and then, after an initial kiss, a pause in both the music and the movement of the scene. Chuck (Ed Westwick) asks Blair (Leighton Meester) if she's sure, and the music, like the audience, waits for her response. When Blair answers by crashing her lips against his once more, the music (Sum 41's "With Me") crashes back in, as well. The dynamics have now changed, as have the atmosphere and mood in the limo. The music is now harder, louder, and it escalates along with the building passion between the couple in perfect idiosyncrasy.




In closing this first installment of musical manipulation meta, I'd like to address a question posed to me by[info]myfriendamy, who asked:

What's the difference between musical manipulation and music to convey/enhance tone and mood?

The answer is simple: is the music in a certain scene enhancing what you already felt about a particular character or pairing, or did you feel as if the music in a scene was being used to bring you to feel in a way that was different than your original stance? In that case, you are more than likely being led around by a group of strategically placed notes and dynamic markings. If you are happy to go along with what the writing is saying and the music is enhancing, then you are being manipulated, but in a welcome way. If, however, you find music pointing you in a direction that you'd rather not go (ie feeling empathy for a character you feel is undeserving, or setting a romantic tone for a pair you'd rather stay non-romantic), then there's a chance that you are being negatively musically manipulated, and can now recognize when such a device is in use.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this topic. Do you agree or disagree? What are some of your favorite examples of musical manipulation?

 
 
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12cubed[info]12_12_12 on January 17th, 2012 04:10 pm (UTC)
OMG, thank you so much for writing this! And it's the first of a series, YAY.

1) I particularly liked the distinction you made between musical manipulation, and music to enhance tone/mood. I wonder if the manipulation has any effect on people like me, though, who don't really pick up on it on a conscious level? Maybe it does, and I'm just not aware of it.

2) I'm going to rewatch that Caroline-Klaus scene with your analysis in mind and see if I can pick up on the cues.

3) Ah, that Chuck/Blair scene. Back when the show was good. In answer to your question about favorite musical moments: I have a lot from S1 of GG, not instances of scored music, but of pop music, which I notice much more readily b/c of the lyrics. "Apologize" in Hi, Society! and, of course, "Stripper" in Victor/Victrola. GG is one of the few shows where I did notice the music, b/c I think the show had an unusual way of using music not as background, but right there, IN YOUR FACE in the middle of a scene, as part of the scene, and yet it wasn't intrusive. I think the music has gone downhill with the rest of the show over the seasons, TBH.

Scored music: I remember the Buffy/Angel theme from BtVS. And I think you're right that music can be just as important as directing/script-writing, etc. because so many people complained about how the tone of that show became cheaper, tackier, once the original composer left (sadly, I've forgotten his name.)

I also remember the Caroline/Tyler theme on TVD being used for the first time in 2x08, when they're having their conversation about their respective supernatural natures ("How can you be a vampire?" "How can you be a werewolf?") I only picked up on it b/c I specifically checked to see what music had been played over their first kiss in 2x12 (OMG I'm so pathetic), and then I wondered if it had been used in previous eps and I just hadn't noticed it (and it had indeed been used in 2x10 and 2x11, which left me going "D'oh." xD)
Lisa: Caroline[info]lisal825 on January 17th, 2012 07:30 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for reading! I know it's long and not the most fascinating topic, but it's something that really interests me, and I'm glad it does you, too!

I wonder if the manipulation has any effect on people like me, though, who don't really pick up on it on a conscious level? Maybe it does, and I'm just not aware of it.

I absolutely believe it does tbh. I think we are far more persuaded by what we hear than we are even aware of. I think there have been many a ship born out of a brilliant piece of well-chosen music. I'd like to find ways to test this theory. Hm...

GG is one of the few shows where I did notice the music, b/c I think the show had an unusual way of using music not as background, but right there, IN YOUR FACE in the middle of a scene, as part of the scene, and yet it wasn't intrusive. I think the music has gone downhill with the rest of the show over the seasons, TBH.

ITA. I think music was initially something new and fresh about GG that has (along with, well, pretty much everything else) gone completely downhill. I still remember the use of a really neat version of Fergie's "Glamorous" in the Pilot that just set this lavish, rotten, delicious mood.

I have never watched Buffy, but I want to look into this. I like that people took notice of a composer leaving. They are often the unsung heroes of the final product. It's amazing to me that actors get as much credit as they do for things tbh. So much of what we feel when we're watching a scene has been manipulated by the setting, the words, and the music.

I only picked up on it b/c I specifically checked to see what music had been played over their first kiss in 2x12 (OMG I'm so pathetic), and then I wondered if it had been used in previous eps and I just hadn't noticed it (and it had indeed been used in 2x10 and 2x11, which left me going "D'oh." xD)

Great example! Without even knowing it, you had been given a theme that represented CT's relationship. I firmly believe that the score came to mean something to you long before you realized, even on the most subconscious-est of levels.


12cubed[info]12_12_12 on January 18th, 2012 01:22 pm (UTC)
I know it's long and not the most fascinating topic

Au contraire. I love this sausage-making stuff. :D

I have never watched Buffy, but I want to look into this.

OMG you should watch it. It has its flaws, especially in the later seasons, but it puts so many other shows to shame in terms of plotting, pacing, humor, characterization, and its treatment of female characters, friendships, ships, etc. WATCH IIIIIIIIT. I think it's one of the reasons I was so hyper-critical of The Vampire Diaries from the get-go, because I had Buffy in mind as the gold standard for vampire shows. Buffy is rougher around the edges in some ways: certainly special effects, and budget, and the overall look and feel...and their werewolf mythology sucks. But it is miles and miles ahead in the things that truly matter, IMO.

Re: GG going downhill - the show's become such a joke, I wouldn't have been surprised if they'd used "Running up that hill" for Blair's pact-making scene. xD

They are often the unsung heroes of the final product.

This is so true (I think the fans of Buffy and Angel were so passionate about the shows that they really paid attention to stuff like this: I mean, the fandom mourned when the original stunt directors and stunt double for Sarah Michelle Gellar left the show. And they really did make a HUGE difference to the final product, just like Mike Massa, the stunt coordinator for Angel, makes everyone else look like an amateur: the fights on TVD have NOTHING on the fight scenes on Angel, srsly.) Have you ever read William Goldman's Adventures in the Screen Trade and More Adventures in the Screen Trade? He has some great essays about the "unsung heroes" in film-making and how often directors and actors get credit for things that are really due to the cinematographer/screenwriter/composer, etc. He said that Chariots of Fire would never have won the Oscar for Best Feature Film if it hadn't been for the score.

I rewatched the Klaus-Caroline scene and I definitely see what you mean now (as with the TC music in S2, I was probably influenced by it on some level even if I didn't realize I was being manipulated, heh.) I tend to pick up a lot more on visual cues, so the first big clue for me that they might actually be exploring an emotional connection with those two characters (though I hope to god it doesn't get shippy) was when they had Klaus framed in the window of Caroline's doorway, which has been a huge "tell" for her in terms of relationships since S2, as I outlined in this meta. They've continued that metaphor to some extent this season, and I think they might have extended it to the doorway of her room, actually.
Lisa[info]lisal825 on January 18th, 2012 08:05 pm (UTC)
Ooh, you make me want to watch Buffy! Is it on Netflix, I wonder?

I wouldn't have been surprised if they'd used "Running up that hill" for Blair's pact-making scene. xD

Ha! I think [info]bridgeetski said the same exact thing!

Have you ever read William Goldman's Adventures in the Screen Trade and More Adventures in the Screen Trade?

Adds to my "to read" list.

He said that Chariots of Fire would never have won the Oscar for Best Feature Film if it hadn't been for the score.

Of course! So completely true!


I rewatched the Klaus-Caroline scene and I definitely see what you mean now (as with the TC music in S2, I was probably influenced by it on some level even if I didn't realize I was being manipulated, heh.)


Something I think is fun about this series, is that I hope it makes us all a little more on alert about these cues. It'll be fun to compare notes during our weekly TV-watching, I think.

12cubed[info]12_12_12 on January 18th, 2012 07:05 pm (UTC)
Ooops...link is:
Oops, the link to the meta I mentioned in the above comment should have been this.
Lisa: Caroline[info]lisal825 on January 18th, 2012 08:05 pm (UTC)
Re: Ooops...link is:
Ooh, I can't wait to devour this! If it's yours, it's obvs brilliant! ;)
being a person is getting too complicated.[info]lesoleilluna on January 17th, 2012 08:32 pm (UTC)
This was really great to read (and YAY looks like there will be more)!

I knew most of the terms from my piano lessons, but I would've never thought about how they apply to anything that isn't at least 100 years old, least of all television.

I haven't watched Grey's Anatomy in forever (probably around the time George died), but I still remember that scene. That song made me cry so much back then.

And I really like how you differ between manipulating and just intensifying what is already there, I've never really thought about it before, but it really makes a huge difference. Especially when shows are as "subtle" as Gossip Girl.

I don't know if you know Skins, but that show is brilliant at making you feel something completely different that you should by using the most unlikely songs.

For example, Chris, one of the main characters dies at the end of the second series, and his friends aren't invited to the funeral, so they have their own "ceremony" not far away from the actul funeral, there is a speech from his girlfriend, and it's all incredible sad, but then the song they choose to play at the end is 7 Nation Army by the White Stripes so the whole scene ends on a really light note.




Or, at the end of first season, another one of the main characters gets hit by a bus after finally telling his ex that he loves her and his fate remains unknown.
On the dvd version the episode ends right after he gets hit, and leaves you in a really distressed and panicked state.
On the tv version there is a coda, where the whole cast starts to performs Cat Stevens' Wild World completely out of the blue (this not a Glee like show), and the whole thing is so WTF and amusing that you're not sad at all after it ends. They completely make you forget what happened just moments before.

Starts at ca. 38:50
Lisa[info]lisal825 on January 17th, 2012 09:15 pm (UTC)
First of all, thank you SO much for reading! It means a lot! <3

Hi5 for piano lessons! Were you dragged as a toddler like I was?

And I really like how you differ between manipulating and just intensifying what is already there, I've never really thought about it before, but it really makes a huge difference.

I think it sticks out for me when it makes me bristle. As in, "Hey, I don't >want to feel what I think you (the show via the music) want me to feel. I refuse to be musically manipulated!" Ha! I'm extremely susceptible to music as a means of affecting emotional response, so this has always stood out to me when it becomes more of a manipulator than just an added enhancement.

Wow, your examples were perfection. I have never seen Skins and know nothing about it, but I've gotta say, this show does a fantastic job at incorporating music as a means of manipulating the emotion that you are supposed to feel in a certain scene.

being a person is getting too complicated.[info]lesoleilluna on January 17th, 2012 10:13 pm (UTC)
Hi5 for piano lessons! Were you dragged as a toddler like I was?

LOL Yes, dragging me to choir, piano and ballet lesson was my mom's desperate attempt to get some culture into me. Sadly I have almost no sense of rhythm so it wasn't that successful. (My dad later went into the opposite direction and sent me to soccer practice and rock climbing to even it out.)

I'm more of a visual type, so I don't notice a lot of music devices until someone hits me over the head with them, so I'm definitely looking forward to reading more of your thought/meta on the topic. =)

Skins is truly ridiculous most of the time, but they're really good at doing the things you least expect them to do. And their storylines are 100% character driven.
Like, the guy who gets hit by the bus, before his accident, he is pretty much the most manipulative teenage brat ever and the center of the whole group, but after, he has to spend a whole season getting his life back (learning how to write and swim again, how to take care of his sister). No half-assed redemption a la Gossip Girl. /end off-topic rant

Lisa[info]lisal825 on January 17th, 2012 10:21 pm (UTC)
choir, piano and ballet lesson

You are me!

I'm more of a visual type, so I don't notice a lot of music devices until someone hits me over the head with them, so I'm definitely looking forward to reading more of your thought/meta on the topic. =)

Thank you so much, bb!

And their storylines are 100% character driven.

You know, I think it took GG to make me realize how much I value a character-driven SL. The lack of such on GG has made me realize how necessary it is for me in order to fully enjoy a TV show.
being a person is getting too complicated.[info]lesoleilluna on January 17th, 2012 10:48 pm (UTC)
You know, I think it took GG to make me realize how much I value a character-driven SL.

THIS- I never appreciated good character driven shows enough, before I got involved in the mess of a show that is GG.
Lisa[info]lisal825 on January 17th, 2012 11:15 pm (UTC)
It made me love flaw-free shows like "Friday Night Lights" all the more.
bellesbells[info]bellesbells on January 18th, 2012 11:26 pm (UTC)
I don't know if you know Skins, but that show is brilliant at making you feel something completely different that you should by using the most unlikely songs.

I think for me that is usually the most successful usage of music; when it not only enhances a particular scene, but actually adds a different spin, a different point of view to the interpretation of what the scene is about. Skins definitely uses music to its advantage (at least for the first few seasons; I haven't watched the new seasons of the show).
Lisa[info]lisal825 on January 18th, 2012 11:38 pm (UTC)
it not only enhances a particular scene, but actually adds a different spin, a different point of view to the interpretation of what the scene is about.

I like this idea of music as an actual 3rd member of the scene. In some cases, the presence of music can make more of an impact than the actual actors themselves.
sgagnon[info]genkichiba on January 17th, 2012 10:00 pm (UTC)
Ths was fantastic. I think the reason I never liked that denny/izzie and CB scene was the clunkiness of the music.It was just so obvious. I prefer musical notes that don't drown out the scene or tell me how to feel.
Lisa: dair[info]lisal825 on January 17th, 2012 10:12 pm (UTC)
Thank you, bb!

IA about ~obvious music. I remember the Chair scene in the S2 finale of Gossip Girl when Chuck finally said ILY and the music was literally saying "love, love, love." LOL
Bridget[info]bridgeetski on January 17th, 2012 10:21 pm (UTC)


Classic tbh!!!
Lisa: dan is judging you[info]lisal825 on January 17th, 2012 10:23 pm (UTC)
I love this song, and I love how many TV shows and movies have used it. Also, I love how it now makes me think of Penn playing Jeff Buckley, lol.
Bridget[info]bridgeetski on January 17th, 2012 11:56 pm (UTC)
Also loved this even though the SL was stupid... so I would say that it manipulated me!!!
Lisa[info]lisal825 on January 17th, 2012 11:59 pm (UTC)
Wow, who died and why is Marissa getting the stank eye?
Bridget[info]bridgeetski on January 18th, 2012 12:18 am (UTC)
Lol some guy no one cares about... I think he was ~in love~ with Marissa
Lisa[info]lisal825 on January 18th, 2012 03:14 am (UTC)
Poor guy. At least there was good music at his funeral.
Caitie[info]caitie on January 18th, 2012 02:26 am (UTC)
I know, like, nothing about music. But this is really interesting. I wonder if better musical supervisors are able to sort of conceal their tracks better than say, TVD's music director who is really, like, painfully!!! obvious with musical cues. (Although I really like the TVD score...)

Lisa[info]lisal825 on January 18th, 2012 03:14 am (UTC)
I wonder if better musical supervisors are able to sort of conceal their tracks better than say, TVD's music director who is really, like, painfully!!! obvious with musical cues.

It's funny, because I don't think it's given much thought just how influential the musical supervisors are in the line of importance of final product for TV shows. Truly, though, they have within their power the ability to make a scene something completely different than what it would be without their additions. They almost have to have writer-like minds in that they need to feed the flow of intention just as much as the writers of the dialogue or the actors themselves do.
La vida de llorona[info]laudanumdream on January 18th, 2012 04:39 am (UTC)
I completely believe it. In fact, The Vampire Diaries and Grey's Anatomy resonate in my list of shows because I love following their soundtracks.

Over winter break I was looking up some of the songs I really enjoyed from TVD and found gems like, "A Drop in the Ocean" (remember the scene at the beginning of season 3 when Stefan calls Elena?) and "Skinny Love" (Jenna's funeral song), not to mention "Cosmic Love" by Florence + The Machine (the last scene Alaric remembers with his wife before he leaves for the day).

The music is very strong, but you know an emotional moment is about to happen based purely on how the music presents itself in the background.

I found it interesting that the famous Grey's Anatomy scene (which I've seen so many times, but didn't think of the music at first) features "Chasing Cars" by Snow Patrol, considering that Grey's Anatomy recently had an episode (okay, not recently recently) where Torres got into an accident and her traumatized brain kept producing songs. The first song in the musical episode of Grey's Anatomy was "Chasing Cars".
Lisa[info]lisal825 on January 18th, 2012 07:57 pm (UTC)
The music is very strong, but you know an emotional moment is about to happen based purely on how the music presents itself in the background.

Exactly! If you are sensitive to these things like I am (and you seem to be), then it's as obvious as a huge neon sign saying, "Important moment to come - this way!!!!"

The first song in the musical episode of Grey's Anatomy was "Chasing Cars".

Oh man, that musical episode was...interesting. That's a fantastic parallel, though. I think Grey's is aces where music is concerned. That show has launched more than a few musical careers, too.
felicityking[info]felicityking on January 18th, 2012 05:01 am (UTC)
This is a really excellent post, and sorely needed considering how many TV shows have turned to "plug in pop song" as a means for a soundtrack. I know what you mean about music enhancing the mood vs. music telling you how to feel. For the life of me, I can never remember the score to HP & the Prisoner of Azkaban, but whenever I watch the movie, always feel the music suits it tone without hitting me over the head. (It's a poor example, I know.)

I think GG definitely uses music manipulation especially where Chair is concerned. I always notice the songs, cuz usually I want to download them, but there have been a few moments where I've been like "This is a beautiful song...but wait! What it is saying? Wait, I'm supposed to feel sorry for Chair, Chuck, etc?" I started noticing it in season 4. But rewatching the seasons, I've noticed it has happens on a fairly regular basis since season 3.

Lisa[info]lisal825 on January 18th, 2012 08:00 pm (UTC)
This is a really excellent post, and sorely needed considering how many TV shows have turned to "plug in pop song" as a means for a soundtrack.

Thank you so much for reading, and you're absolutely right. It's an art to place music to enhance or lead the moments, and yet some shows are way too "clunky" or obvious with their choices.

For the life of me, I can never remember the score to HP & the Prisoner of Azkaban, but whenever I watch the movie, always feel the music suits it tone without hitting me over the head. (It's a poor example, I know.)

Can you believe I've never seen or read any HP??? I'm sure this is not a poor example at all! My friends are begging me to read the series and gush about it's merits.

I think GG definitely uses music manipulation especially where Chair is concerned.

Absolutely. Look at the season 2 finale and how Chuck says ILY to a soundtrack literally blaring "love, love, love" in the background. The S4 premiere scene in Paris was a gorgeous piece of music, as well, but I was just so furious with Chuck at the time, that I bristled at being manipulated by the music into feeling for him.
felicityking: Blair Waldorf/Gossip Girl 2[info]felicityking on January 19th, 2012 07:12 pm (UTC)
HP is an awesome series! Sure, it has its flaws, but it's very good. JKR is also very sly in getting across political messages about labor, torture, human rights, tolerance, etc. Even though she writer children's books, she's like Neil Gaiman or Philip Pullman: takes fairy tale, folklore, and mythology motifs and puts her own unique spin on them. But you have to read the books. I love the films, but cut out too much.

Thinking on it further, I've realized even though many shows and movies have recognizable themes/music motifs, when I think about those movies, the music used on one scene doesn't come to mind first. Like Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Pride and Prejudice (the miniseries). I love and know the music cuz they are so embedded in pop culture but I think it's a example of how music--despite being so well-known--was used the correct way. Cuz I think about the characters and their struggles rather than "I need to download this." Vs. GG or even GA where I don't remember the characters cuz I'm focused on the song. (It's like acting has been made secondary to music. If that makes sense. The actor can suck because they know that the song will project how they--and we by watching the person--are ~supposed~ to feel.) (I haven't watch GA in years, but I will say at least they try to show pain aside the music even if I'm not agreement with their pain.)

LOL! I never realized that. I mean, I enjoy the song "Season of Love" but for as often as I listen to it (cuz it's still a good song, despite its Chair connection), I never connected that it was...that obvious.

The one episode where music manipulation sticks out to me is during season 4. where at the end the narrator says something about Chuck discovering the light at the end of the tunnel, but it being too late. Cuz I like the song, but paying attention to its lyrics, I realized they were trying to make me feel sorry to Chair/Chuck. And I refuse to download the song cuz it happened during the Dair arc, and I loathe the show tried to minimize Dair in that way.

I suppose music manipulation becomes more obvious if one is opposed to what the series wants us to support. Like Chair fans never comment on the music. But obviously it effects them because they support Chair. (Or if they do comment on it like "Dancing in the Dark," they make howlers ignoring the song's grammar usage. Cuz it's a song about being heartbroken by someone who betrays you. But the way they use it, you'd think it was a song about having sex with the person you love.) (Which is why I will never forgive JS for the way he tried to spin "Love the Way You Lie"which is SO. Obviously. CLEARLY. about domestic violence and NOT "we want to be together but can't be. Woe is us" shit.)
Lisa[info]lisal825 on January 19th, 2012 07:49 pm (UTC)
It's like acting has been made secondary to music. If that makes sense. The actor can suck because they know that the song will project how they--and we by watching the person--are ~supposed~ to feel

That absolutely makes sense and is a case where musical manipulation has gone too far in the opposite direction. The music should never be just flat out leading to a place the scene and actors aren't taking it. If that's the case, than the show is simply relying on the music to do a job that the actors, writers, and musical supervisors all need to do together

I suppose music manipulation becomes more obvious if one is opposed to what the series wants us to support.

That's exactly true. I use the word "bristle," but I find myself perking or becoming prickly to a musical choice, if I feel I'm being led in a way that I just don't want to go. I don't want to ship that ship or feel bad for that character, etc.


Which is why I will never forgive JS for the way he tried to spin "Love the Way You Lie"which is SO. Obviously. CLEARLY. about domestic violence and NOT "we want to be together but can't be. Woe is us" shit.

AH! I had forgotten about that! Raaaaaaaaaaaaaage!
bellesbells[info]bellesbells on January 19th, 2012 12:10 am (UTC)
If, however, you find music pointing you in a direction that you'd rather not go (ie feeling empathy for a character you feel is undeserving, or setting a romantic tone for a pair you'd rather stay non-romantic), then there's a chance that you are being negatively musically manipulated

A lot of the times when I feel like I am being manipulated by the music is when the writing/acting in a scene wasn't enough to convey or convince me of a particular emotion. So I don't know if it's exactly that it's manipulative when it's pointing me in a direction that I'd rather not go, but more that the scene itself, without the music, hasn't earned the moment that it's asking me to buy. I'd feel manipulated by a show that uses music to bridge the gap it already has in its writing. A scene (or even the storyline at large) has to be able to already convey that emotion even without the music; and the music is only there to enhance whatever emotion you're already feeling, not to fill in a gaping hole in the plot.

And then there are those times when it's just too much. Like I already get where it's going, and then they'd pick the cheesiest song to accent a moment, and it's overkill and actually detracts from the emotional impact the scene already had rather than enhances it. (though I guess that's not considered music manipulation, but rather an unfortunate bad choice of song. It's akin to say watching fanvids of a couple you already like, but you hate the song choice? kind of deal.)

I love this though:

Lisa[info]lisal825 on January 19th, 2012 12:43 am (UTC)
A scene (or even the storyline at large) has to be able to already convey that emotion even without the music; and the music is only there to enhance whatever emotion you're already feeling, not to fill in a gaping hole in the plot.

Definitely a valid clarification. I think that's also where scenes are most susceptible of setting off my radar for this kind of thing, because it's in those times when it can become (sometimes painfully) that much more obvious.


And then there are those times when it's just too much. Like I already get where it's going, and then they'd pick the cheesiest song to accent a moment, and it's overkill and actually detracts from the emotional impact the scene already had rather than enhances it.


Absolutely. As with many things in life, less if often more. Music is no exception here. I remember a scene in GG when a character was confessing his love, and the lyrics behind the scene were somewhat obnoxiously saying "LOVE LOVE LOVE" repeatedly.

I love this though:

OMG...ded. The wardrobe! The music! The hair!!!!!!!
bellesbells[info]bellesbells on January 21st, 2012 04:15 pm (UTC)
OMG...ded. The wardrobe! The music! The hair!!!!!!!

Yes, yes, and yes. But it was perfect. I don't think I can hear that song without thinking of this scene.

I remember a scene in GG when a character was confessing his love, and the lyrics behind the scene were somewhat obnoxiously saying "LOVE LOVE LOVE" repeatedly.

LOL! Yeah, stuff like that. There's this bit in TVD some time ago where they used Gravity un-ironically in a DE or SE scene, and I completely lost it, :D
(Anonymous) on January 22nd, 2012 04:18 pm (UTC)
There's this bit in TVD some time ago where they used Gravity un-ironically in a DE or SE scene, and I completely lost it, :D

It was the first SE kiss. I thought it was foreshadowing at the time lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd34tmOXeW4
Lisa: stefan/damon[info]lisal825 on January 23rd, 2012 02:22 pm (UTC)
Ooh, good call! Thanks for sharing!
Lisa: blair in hat[info]lisal825 on January 23rd, 2012 02:22 pm (UTC)
Here's the GG scene I was talking about (wouldn't let me embed):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYsnBaBqLJ4

LOVE LOVE LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE
La femme cachée: pretty tiara stephen[info]la_faerie on January 25th, 2012 11:59 pm (UTC)
Oh my god, I know I'm super late to the party here but I just wanted to comment and say how awesome this is! I know next to nothing about music and I honestly felt like I was learning something by reading this. And there's going to be more where this came from? Doubly awesome!

In general, I don't put much thought into tv scores but recently the soundtrack on Homeland made me sit up and take note. I can't remember if you watch that show or not? There was one major sequence at the end of an episode that was set to jazz music, and it was incredibly affecting *and* effective. I can't think of a lot of tv shows that feature jazz, so that scene really stood out to me.
Lisa: Sybil[info]lisal825 on January 26th, 2012 12:32 am (UTC)
I haven't seen Homeland, but I know it's gotten fantastic buzz!

You're right about jazz. Lyrical music has gotten replaced in large by music with obvious and heavy-handed lyrics, so anything instrumental is fascinating to me, as well.

Thanks for reading, darling!
eleai[info]eleai on February 16th, 2012 12:23 am (UTC)
I completely agree about the use of music to manipulate scenes. One of the greatest examples I can think of is Battlestar Galactica. There is a particular theme that is played on bagpipes every time something compelling happens with a main group of characters, and suddenly its like an already sad scene becomes that much more emotional. Don't get me wrong--I loved the music, but it was definitely trying to make you feel something. My brother often accused the show at those moments of being "emotionally manipulative". (The music was what I affectionately referred to as the "Adama family band." It more than once induced tears.)
Lisa[info]lisal825 on February 16th, 2012 01:17 am (UTC)
Thank you so much for reading!

There is a particular theme that is played on bagpipes every time something compelling happens with a main group of characters, and suddenly its like an already sad scene becomes that much more emotional.

I've never seen BG (heard wonderful things about it, though!), but just from my knowledge of music, I am already thinking what a group choice of instrument the bagpipes are! Such a sharp and cutting sound, where you get a hit of pain before the sweet tones come in. Side note is that you also have to fill the bag with air long before you make the note you want to. You have to store up air in advance instead of just taking a breath immediately prior to your desired note like in singing or most instruments. Just those things alone make for such a great player in a musical manipulation score.

I have shed many a tear during a musical manipulation scene, so are you in good company. Cheers! :D
Agnes Bean[info]agnes_bean on March 12th, 2012 11:58 am (UTC)
Here via the part 2 you posted to month of meta, and I must say, this is very interesting.

I lot of the shows where I love the music the most are shows that have original scores (people above mentioned BSG and Buffy; Sherlock and freaking Doctor Who are other great examples.)

What I think is interesting about those kind of shows is that I think they do exactly what you talk about here based a) on musical qualities, but also b) the emotional residence those musical themes already have based on their prior usage in the show.

For a good example, some variation on Doctor Who's triumphant theme for The Doctor is used most times he does something awesome, so I have very positive associations with it -- which means it can (and totally has) been used to make me feel happy with scenes that actually are OTT and ridiculous and that I wouldn't like at all, except when that music gets blasting, I just kind of smile and am like "Go Doctor!"

For example, I LOVE LOVE LOVE Matt Smith's as the Doctor, but TBH Big Epic Speeches aren't his strong point, and yet I consider this scene as stirring as any of the other Doctor's Big Epic Speeches -- and it's totally because of the music. Which I guess might be a positive use of musical manipulation, but it's also totally using it to make up for a failure on the actors' part.

Cases like that are interesting to me. On one hand, using and original score to manipulate seems more earned -- I mean, they had to do a good job writing the music and using it in earlier episodes for it to be effective -- but on the other hand, in some ways it's even easier. Listening to certain music from Doctor Who makes me cry sans seeing anything on screen, so they can stick it on top of the most ill-conceived scene and get something out of me.
Lisa[info]lisal825 on March 12th, 2012 06:57 pm (UTC)
Thanks so much for stopping by and reading!

the emotional residence those musical themes already have based on their prior usage in the show.

Yes! There are certain scores that shows will repeatedly use that absolutely carry with them a sense of foretelling. On Downton Abbey, for example, Mary and Matthew seemed to have their own ~theme that we came to purely know as their very own soundtrack. Hearing it even now would bring them to mind, as the music did a great job of making the connection between the pair and the notes in my senses.

but on the other hand, in some ways it's even easier. Listening to certain music from Doctor Who makes me cry sans seeing anything on screen, so they can stick it on top of the most ill-conceived scene and get something out of me.

While I'm not familiar with "Doctor Who" (I need to check this show out, btw, after all the raving I've heard about it), I know exactly what you mean, and I think what you've hit on is sort of where this idea of manipulation vs. enhancement comes in. It's only when I feel as if the music is MAKING me feel something (at times against my will - maybe wanting me to ~feel a certain pairing that I abhor) that I feel especially manipulated, if that makes sense.
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